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More Hope for a Cancer Cure - Part II

Interview with Dr. Gary L. Glum
by Elizabeth Robinson

Calling of an Angel is a book about Rene Caisse and the Essiac formula by Dr Gary L. Glum of Los Angeles. After reading the book and finding it to be informative, well documented and moving, I decided to interview Dr. Glum. I verified the basic information and personally made and successfully used Essiac.


Interviewer: Can you tell us a little about how you became interested in the story you tell in Calling of an Angel, and how you learned about Rene Caisse and her work?

Dr. Gary Glum: A personal friend of mine knew a woman who had been diagnosed twenty years ago with incurable terminal cancer and was given about ten days to live. She convinced her husband to make a trip to Bracebridge, Canada where she went to see Rene Caisse. She was treated with the herbal remedy developed by Rene called Essiac (Caisse spelled backwards) and in a short time she didn't have a cancer cell in her body. I learned about Rene Caisse from Mary McPherson who was a very close personal friend and patient of Rene's. Mary worked with Rene in the 1930's and she had in her possession all of the Essiac documented cases accumulated over 40 years. All of these documents were burned by the Canadian Ministry of Health & Welfare [equivalent to the United States FDA].

In a hearing in 1937, the Royal Cancer Commission expressed its finding that Essiac was indeed a cure for cancer. The Government did not want the truth in the hands of the press or the public.

Interviewer: I would guess that virtually every person in American today has been touched by cancer, either personally or by a loved one. If this information is true and the effectiveness of this remedy is actually medically documented, many lives would be saved. Why do you think the information on Essiac is not more widely known?

GG: The information is withheld because cancer is the second largest revenue producing business in the world and money and power suppress truth.

Interviewer: In your book you mention that the Brusch Clinic in Massachusetts worked with Rene Caisse and Essiac during the early 1960's. Is this clinic still doing research at this time?

GG: Dr. Charles A. Brusch is not practicing at this time. He was a personal physician to the late John F. Kennedy. Dr. Brusch worked with Rene Caisse from 1959 until 1962. He worked with thousands of cancer patients.

Dr. Brusch presented his findings after ten years of research. In his own words, "Essiac is a cure for cancer, period! All studies done at laboratories in the United States and Canada support this conclusion." Whereupon the federal government issued a gag order on this information!

Dr. Brusch's patients included Ted Kennedy's son who had sarcoma in his leg and had his leg amputated. His personal doctor, Dr. Farber of the Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, did not know how to save him because no one had ever lived with that type of sarcoma. Dr. Farber then went to Dr. Brusch who put him on Essiac. After the treatment, he did not have a cancer cell in his body. Yet this information has been hidden from the general public.

There is also the problem of having herbal distributing companies substitute yellow dock and curly dock for sheep's sorrel, which is one of the main and critical ingredients in Essiac.

The sheep's sorrel is the ingredient that was found to be responsible for the destruction of cancer cells in the body, and their amalgamation where metastasized cancer cells may actually return to the original tumor site.

That research was done by Dr. Chester Stock at Sloan-Kettering in New York for over a three year period. This information was also withheld from the general public. When this information was given to the Canadian Ministry of Health & Welfare, sheep's sorrel was immediately banned from sale and distribution!

Interviewer: They banned the common weed sheep's sorrel?

GG: Yes, sheep's sorrel is just a common weed that grows in abundance throughout North America and into Canada.

Interviewer: Well, it seems that banning sheep's sorrel would not be very effective if you can identify it yourself.

GG: Yes, it's just a question of identifying the plant, harvesting and drying it correctly and putting it with the other herbs. Rene would harvest the sheep's sorrel - rumex acetosella - when it was four to six inches high. She cut it back and it would grow up again, and she'd cut it back again. She would do that about three times and then let it go to seed. It would grow 14 to 18 inches high. She would then take the herb cuttings home and lay them out at room temperature and dry them. She'd let the cuttings sit there for three or four days. Then she'd turn them every two days until they were properly dry, which took about 10 days to 2 weeks. It takes about a bushel of harvested sheep's sorrel to produce one pound of the dried powdered herb which is used in the formula.

When Rene Caisse set up her clinical trials in Canada to test Essiac, she was given government permission to treat terminally ill cancer patients who had been given up as hopeless by the medical profession. That was the only criteria. Secondly, this was all to be certified by a pathology report. Third she could not charge for her services. She agreed to all of this and proceeded to treat people with Essiac. Many of these patients were still alive 35 years later to bury Rene when she died at the age of 90.

All we can do now is to try to disseminate this information to the public and if someone feels it has value in his or her life and the lives of their loved ones, you have the right to make this remedy and use it in the privacy of your own home without anyone's approval.

Interviewer: Have you had any personal experiences with Essiac?

GG: Yes, I can give you an example. He was a 12 year old boy named Toby Wood. He had acute lymphoblastic leukemia, which is one of the most virulent of all leukemias. He had been on chemotherapy for four years and radiation for three. His mother's only hope in life was to find a cure for him. She went everywhere and tried every alternative treatment. Toby's white cell count was 186,000. He had virtually no red blood cells and no platelets and was hemorrhaging to death when I met Toby's aunt who told me of his plight. She flew to Alaska where Toby was and gave him a bottle of Essiac. At the time, Toby had been given three days to live and was in a state of complete deterioration. He was given the Essiac and all hemorrhaging stopped within 24 hours. Within three months all of his blood tests were normal. The leukemia was gone. There were no more cancer cells.

Eventually Toby did die, but an exhaustive autopsy found no blast cells (cancer) in any life support organ or the bone marrow.

Interviewer: What was the cause of Toby's death?

GG: The cause of death was "damage to the myocardial sac of the heart as a result of the chemotherapy."

This was the first documented report in medical history of anyone surviving lymphoblastic leukemia, but Associated Press and UPI refused to print it.

Armed with the truth and verifiable evidence that Essiac was a proven cure for cancer, we approached many major media to try to make this information immediately available to the public. We talked to Philip Scheffler, producer of 60 Minutes who refused us. I said "If you think I'm wrong, why don't you just expose me as a fraud. He said, "Nope, can't do it."

We took the Essiac story to Joe Donally, the Executive News Producer for ABC. He refused our story on the grounds that his phone lines would be inundated with 65,000 calls. We asked "How sympathetic do you think a parent whose child is dying of leukemia would be to your refusal to take phone calls?" He went on to say, he's got a mortgage and is looking forward to retirement.

Another problem is a disinformation campaign. Rene turned the Essiac formula over to Respirin Corporation in Toronto, Canada in 1978 for one dollar. Rene thought Respirin Corporation was politically powerful and had enough money to get Essiac to the public. She was also mislead into believing that she would lead the research activities. To her dismay, she found out that Respirin worked closely with the Canadian Ministry of Health & Welfare, who works directly with the FDA and the National Cancer Institute. None of these agencies wanted this information disseminated. Respirin falsified research documents. One man, which Respirin listed as dead on its research project documents, showed up at Rene's door to thank her

A further roadblock is with some of the herbal companies who are substituting curly dock for sheep's sorrel so that people are getting a formula missing the key cancer cell killing herb. It is important to also use herbs that have NOT been fumigated and irradiated which is a process frequently used on herbs coming in from other countries.

There are four key ingredients in Essiac.

  1. The powdered sheep's sorrel (rumex acetosella) is what destroys cancer cells. In fact sheep's sorrel is listed in herbal books as an ancient remedy for curing tumors. The other three ingredients are blood purifiers. They are:
  2. powdered rhubarb root (rheum palatum),
  3. burdock root (arctium lappa) and
  4. powdered slippery elm bark (ulmus fulva).

Essiac elevates the enzyme system, which elevates the hormone system which elevates the immune system so that the miraculous body can cure its own disease.


I also worked with the AIDS Project, Los Angeles, throughout their Long Beach and San Pedro districts. They all had pneumocystis carinii and histoplasmosis. Their weight was down to about 100 pounds and their T-4 cell counts were less than ten. The project gave me five of these patients. I took them off of AZT and DDI and put them on Essiac three time a day. My patients are the only ones still alive today. The other 174 are dead. You wouldn't even know the Essiac patients were sick a day in their lives. Their weight is back to normal. This information is not being disseminated. The chairman of the AIDS project in LA earns over $100,000 a year.

Rene also found that Essiac is a strong preventative against many kinds of diseases. These findings were substantiated by Dr. Albert Scharz at Temple University who discovered the cure for tuberculosis. Rene also found that Essiac would normalize the thyroid gland.

Essiac also a Potential Cure for Ulcers and Diabetes

Rene Caisse also discovered that Essiac would heal stomach ulcers within three or four weeks. She felt that ulcers were a precursor to cancer. Sir Frederick Banting, the co-discoverer of insulin, wanted to work with Rene. She had clinical cases where a person on insulin discontinued it with Essiac. Apparently Essiac regulated the pancreas in the cases of diabetes mellitus and these people became insulin free.

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